IRC logs of Libera.Chat #BZFlag for Saturday, 2026-07-11

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blast007Juest: actually, the latest version of c-ares fixed the bug, so it works on Windows 7 again (and probably Vista)12:41
blast007they had a fix added to their git back in February, and in my CMake testing I had cherry picked that change into the source before building, but now they've had two releases since that was fixed12:42
Juestoh cool13:03
blast007I also successfully compiled the dependencies using CMake, and that all worked to compile the game and the Windows installer13:03
Juestnice :D13:03
Juesthow about master?13:03
blast007I haven't touched that in a while13:04
Juestalso, does bzf build on llvm/clang?13:04
Juestmy thought for this is maybe i can build it on 7 natively13:05
Juestwith that13:05
Juestim not going to put any visual studio installer based products on here13:05
Juestshould i try to see what happens if i try to build with vs 2015?13:07
Juesti dont have the windows 10 machine available13:07
blast007why build with 2015?13:12
Juestbecause i have vs 2005-2015 installed here13:17
blast0072015 is already unsupported by Microsoft. They generally have a 10 year support lifecycle.13:19
Juestand? that doesnt make it unusable13:19
blast007sure, but 2017 is what we target13:20
blast007for now13:20
Juesti understand that, yes13:20
blast007we'll have to decide what to do in 2027/202813:20
blast007I don't know if newer versions of Visual Studio can still target Vista/7. Sometimes they do have a way to install the older compilers with the newer IDE.13:21
Juestvs 2022 is the last that can target those systems i think13:21
Juestits possible to install 2017, 2019 and to an extent 2022 on 713:22
Juestbut it been a while that 7 is not suitable as host13:22
Juestvcredist 2026 and the ide do not work on 7 pretty sure13:22
Juestvista also is recently getting the premium assurance support ending i think?13:23
Juestvxkex uses visual studio 2010, but that's a different story because its an extender for a older os13:24
Juestkernel extender*13:24
Juestuses vs10sp113:25
Juestand windows 7.1 sdk13:25
Juestanyways13:26
Juestwould be a nice move to say bzflag supports older oses on the official site13:27
Juestsay what it technically runs on not what it officially supports as long as its supported by upstream13:37
Juestblast007: tried crosscompiling yet?13:39
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blast007nope, not yet. Was getting the CMake deps working first.13:49
blast007Juest: and the site does say that it technically runs on13:50
blast007what*13:50
Juestblast007: im told that it states windows 8 for some reason 13:52
Juestthe legacy diehards are a bit on the fence bc of that lol13:52
blast007because that build did only work on windows 8 and newer13:55
blast007sure, if you build that version of the source *now* with an updated c-ares, it would work13:56
blast007but the download needs 8+13:56
Juestah gotcha13:57
Juestwell, i cant really build from source right now on windows13:57
Juestsorry13:58
blast007I can :P14:06
Juestfeel free to send me that my way14:07
Juestpreferably with the old fonts included14:07
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