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| Zehra | I'll be checking out arch, alpine and gentoo in the future. :) | 01:32 |
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| blast007 | Zehra: bzadmin doesn't *need* a curses library. It would just only have the stdin/stdout/stdboth UI types and lack the curses UI type. | 01:33 |
| blast007 | Zehra: also,f or arch, keep in mind that there is an 'archinstall' command available from the installer live media that will run an install wizard. That's what I've used. | 01:34 |
| blast007 | also, for* | 01:34 |
| Zehra | blast007: By any chance were other interfaces planned for bzadmin in the future? | 01:38 |
| blast007 | we should add a graphical interface to it | 01:41 |
| blast007 | maybe one that could use OpenGL to speed up the rendering | 01:41 |
| blast007 | and while we're at it, maybe we could also make it possible to play the game from this new bzadmin UI | 01:42 |
| Zehra | lol | 01:45 |
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| * Zehra realizes arch and gentoo use systemd | 01:49 | |
| blast007 | systemd is rather nice | 01:52 |
| blast007 | sounds like Gentoo uses OpenRC by default for the init system, though | 01:55 |
| Agatha | ASCII-art renderer for bzflag when | 03:26 |
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| Optic_Delusion | now I'm stuck with what led me to the other things... No Modeltool that includes drawinfio conversion can be opened on my mac. | 14:26 |
| Optic_Delusion | need a modeltool.2.88 compiled for apple silicon. | 14:28 |
| Optic_Delusion | er 2.99 | 14:28 |
| blast007 | can't apple silicon macs run intel mac binaries through Rosetta2? | 14:33 |
| Optic_Delusion | not through the terminal? | 14:40 |
| Optic_Delusion | it's the security that i'm having problems with. developer verification... | 14:43 |
| Optic_Delusion | I'm working with a copy of a decade old file, in the terminal it says "zsh: killed ./modeltool" then a dialog comes up about developer verification | 14:44 |
| Optic_Delusion | I was able to get a copy of modeltool downloaded with BZFlag 2.4.26 to run, but it has no drawinfo | 14:46 |
| Optic_Delusion | chmod 755 has no effect | 14:47 |
| blast007 | sounds like you need to allow it to run. might be marked as being downloaded from the Internet, so it's getting blocked by GateKeeper | 14:50 |
| blast007 | if you right click on it and choose Open, what happens? | 14:51 |
| Optic_Delusion | GAH, that was too simple | 14:52 |
| Optic_Delusion | works.. but | 14:52 |
| Optic_Delusion | I'm also having a serious WTF moment, for years people have been asking me about drawinfo, and I tell them, "you already have modeltool in your downoaded app", and now you tell me that drawinfo support never made it into 2.4 modeltool... so when they went and found modeltool, and tried to run it... they had a WTF moment too? | 14:53 |
| Optic_Delusion | I've been working with the same old copy for over a decade... i guess that's why drawinfo usage never blossomed | 14:54 |
| Optic_Delusion | never knew | 14:54 |
| Juest | Optic_Delusion: issue spctl --master-disable and then run xattr -rsd com.apple.quarantine on the files | 18:23 |
| Juest | well, the first command is optional but basically it lowers the security for scanned files to allow anything from anywhere to run | 18:25 |
| Juest | the second removes the protection altogether by removing the extended attribute that marks them for verification | 18:26 |
| blast007 | I wouldn't run the first without fully understanding the implications of that. And I think the second is unnecessary as they've already got it running. | 18:28 |
| Juest | i mean, the second command basically removes the verification without the verification :) | 18:34 |
| blast007 | Does right clicking and choosing Open do that already? | 18:39 |
| Juest | blast007: no, it runs verification and then removes it when you click on open | 18:40 |
| Juest | the only difference is that right click open lets you open things from unidentified developers which normally doesnt allow you to | 18:41 |
| blast007 | ah | 18:41 |
| Juest | once you click open in the verification prompt is when its removed, removing it manually via xattr bypasses it entirely | 18:42 |
| Juest | only downloads that are aware of the quarantine flag and use the apple api for that matter do have it, CLI tools and such dont put the extended attribute | 18:43 |
| Juest | the spctl command lets you select allow programs from anywhere | 18:44 |
| Juest | which lowers the security but it still verifies stuff and informs you about it but it doesnt display a warning | 18:45 |
| blast007 | Windows does the same sort of thing through NTFS alternate data streams | 18:45 |
| Juest | you mean like the "block" stuff it has in properties? | 18:46 |
| Juest | that's a thing since xp iirc | 18:46 |
| blast007 | yup | 18:46 |
| Juest | its worse than apple solution | 18:46 |
| Juest | it only shows a dialog every time you try to open it | 18:47 |
| Juest | than XProtect that is | 18:47 |
| blast007 | I mean for the marking of stuff as being "from the Internet" | 18:48 |
| blast007 | for verification it has SmartScreen | 18:48 |
| Juest | fair enough | 19:20 |
| BZNotify | master @ asset-manager: blast007 pushed 3 commits (https://github.com/BZFlag-Dev/asset-manager/compare/438402763aa7...a1027c32c6a5): | 19:39 |
| BZNotify | master @ asset-manager: blast007 d262db: Rename preview.js to util.js (https://github.com/BZFlag-Dev/asset-manager/commit/d262db9a6fe1e798e3ae291d8a95685443f14d03) | 19:39 |
| BZNotify | master @ asset-manager: blast007 3f4bd8: Allow submitting changes to reviewed assets and improve auth checks. (https://github.com/BZFlag-Dev/asset-manager/commit/3f4bd8fdd0977468d2b94358230ce9714193a4fd) | 19:39 |
| BZNotify | master @ asset-manager: blast007 a1027c: Update dependencies. (https://github.com/BZFlag-Dev/asset-manager/commit/a1027c32c6a5b49e0e2ea28627245e5e608eba7b) | 19:39 |
| BZNotify | master @ asset-manager: blast007 pushed 1 commit (https://github.com/BZFlag-Dev/asset-manager/compare/a1027c32c6a5...f21d415c5cd2): | 20:42 |
| BZNotify | master @ asset-manager: blast007 f21d41: Add some navigation links to the directory index layout. (https://github.com/BZFlag-Dev/asset-manager/commit/f21d415c5cd24c19b33f0da2e779ae3dde344d8d) | 20:42 |
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| BZNotify | asset-manager: blast007 labeled pull request #1 "Adds the ability to toggle between dark and light mode." as enhancement (https://github.com/BZFlag-Dev/asset-manager/pull/1) | 21:05 |
| BZNotify | asset-manager: blast007 opened pull request #1 | 21:05 |
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