IRC logs of Libera.Chat #BZFlag for Friday, 2024-01-05

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ZehraIPv6 enabled BZFlag tested. It is very promising from what I've just seen. In tests with IPv6 BZFlag and IPv4 BZFlag: IPv6 auth and UDP working, IPv4 auth and UDP failed.00:10
ZehraWhile it has been suggested for mobile versions of BZFlag to be made... I will say it is now viable.00:11
ZehraIn short: This is very exciting news!00:12
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Juestseems like a different issue or a blame your isp case Zehra 01:18
ZehraJuest: IPv6 is IMO bad design, they could have just added more digits to IPv4 and we'd have a better protocol. And the telecoms in general are rated lowly.01:22
ZehraBut we can't fix that, so we do the next best thing and that is make BZFlag better then before.01:22
ZehraSo yes it's a different issue, but in reality, I highly doubt most of us are in the position to really do anything about it.01:23
ZehraSo we do the next best thing. :)01:23
Juestyou're flawed in your sayings 01:24
Juestthe issue is your isp blocking ipv4 shenanigans 01:25
blast007Juest: you're assuming it's the ISP's fault and not just something we did wrong01:27
Juesti guess that's also a possibility blast007 01:40
ZehraJuest: It's not like I could mandate them to not block IPv4. Or order them by executive permissions. :p01:44
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ZehraSo they suck, I can't do much about it.01:46
ZehraI noticed something interesting in the "configure" script in both 2.5 versions: After: if test "x$sdl_prefix$sdl_exec_prefix" = x ; then02:09
ZehraWhat follows in 2.4.x: sdl_pc=no02:09
ZehraBut in 2.5.x: PKG_CHECK_MODULES(SDL, sdl2 >= $min_sdl_version,\n           sdl_pc=yes,\n           sdl_pc=no)02:10
ZehraError: ./configure: 23421: Syntax error: word unexpected (expecting ")")02:12
Zehra(Copy and pasting the known "working" values from 2.4.x "configure" worked alright, but a bit unusual.)02:13
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blast007Zehra: I'm not seeing that error here.  What distro/version of Linux are you seeing that on?03:51
Zehrablast007: Void Linux with musl03:52
Zehra(I'm checking version now)03:53
blast007I tried void a bit yesterday but got annoyed trying to get gdm/gnome to launch03:54
ZehraIt took a while for me to work out a few things with it. (I tried network install vs local and I wound up having to restart a few times.)03:56
ZehraI'm using the xfce interface and I believe the install was 2023-06-28 Live image musl03:57
blast007I think I tried over a dozen times just to install the base system because it kept error out complaining that 'grub-install' wasn't found03:58
ZehraMain reason for switch was a bit of a speed increase and to drop systemd03:58
Zehrayikes03:59
blast007I think the fix for that was telling it to *not* use a network mirror03:59
blast007and then after the gdm/gnome issues I just gave up and threw that VM into the void :P03:59
Zehralol04:00
blast007honestly easier to install arch linux04:00
ZehraI have no comment, it's been linux lite and currently linux void04:02
Zehraand while not nix, "reactOS" which ran in qemu. :o04:02
Zehrahttps://pastebin.com/Psgvdabf - configure.log04:13
ZehraI realized something odd, ncurses-devel wasn't installed, but bzadmin compiled.04:19
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Juestalpine is another interesting alternative :)12:52
Optic_Delusionbzw man page... in  group definition, only matswap is documented.  Where is phydrvswap, textswap, and zoneswap?  from customgroup.cxx13:14
Optic_Delusionis textswap for like zone death messages?  I've never seen that one before.13:16
blast007Optic_Delusion: you're looking at 2.99?13:48
blast0072.4 and 2.5 don't have those13:48
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tuponeuse gentoo ! It has binary packages now :)18:48
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Optic_DelusionAs always, blast007, you are correct. However, I ask, Why not have the other swaps?  When I put the 2.99 CustomGroup and the 2.4 CustomGroup next to each other, there are only tiny differences between the sections of code for matswap and phydrvswap.   Is "int" vs "const"  a problem?  is there something missing from PhysicsDriver.cxx?23:01
Optic_Delusionzoneswap would make life a lot easier for me.   weaponswap would sure be nice.  I think textswap would be 2.99 only.  23:03
Optic_Delusionthat's wrong... zones are not currently group-able at all, if I'm not mistaken. But I'd bet that section of code could be torn from 2.99 and might just work in 2.423:05
blast007cuz nobody backported it23:06
Optic_Delusionseems to me like it would be an easy one.23:06

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