IRC logs of Freenode #BZFlag for Friday, 2020-11-27

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FlashSaw this in another group. Does it affect us?19:25
FlashCheers, as the project maintainers might know (or not - it was all too poorly announced), travis-ci.org is closing soon and projects should use travis-ci.com instead. I'm still researching in other communities how that actually works, wheter it stays free ro not, etc.19:25
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allejowe're not using travis, but the move to travis-ci.com is free for open source stuff. they're just migrating to the same infrastructure (.org and .com had different infrastructures before, i.e. more to maintain)22:30
blast007except on macOS  https://blog.travis-ci.com/2020-11-02-travis-ci-new-billing22:34
blast007allejo: I'm not real familar with them, but does this also apply to us? "For those of you who have been building on public repositories (on travis-ci.com, with no paid subscription), we will upgrade you to our trial (free) plan with a 10K credit allotment (which allows around 1000 minutes in a Linux environment)"22:36
allejoooo well that's lame that they're charging for macOS now22:38
allejothe only automated builds we have going on right now go through GitHub Actions22:39
blast007more expensive to scale macOS build servers cuz... mac hardware :)22:39
allejowe tried using travis at some point but we couldn't get the linux environment to build with SDL2 or something like that22:39
blast007even the density of mac hardware is bad compared to other hardware22:39
blast007I think their Ubuntu was too old22:40
allejoyea, so we didn't pursue it any further22:41
allejohttps://travis-ci.com/github/bzflag-dev we're on there but no builds at all22:42
allejoso we're safe from any random charges22:42
blast007https://blog.travis-ci.com/oss-announcement  so I guess the above link was before they were merging the .org/.com (or at least, they were referring to the .com repos specifically)  "Open source accounts, as always, will be completely free under travis-ci.com."22:42
blast007though with "completely" I'm not sure if they're counting macOS :)22:43
blast007"For reference, travis CI was sold to an investment company some time ago. The strategy is 100% to not improve the infrastructure, fire all the developers to save costs, and milk money from existing customers for as long as possible."  https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2496460122:45
blast007https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2020/travis-cis-new-pricing-plan-threw-wrench-my-open-source-works22:47
allejohonestly, that doesn't surprise me. GitHub Actions basically killed the need for external CIs22:49
allejofor my work, getting agreements with new vendors takes months. so getting Travis or Circle would have been a huge hurdle. but GHA comes along and fits in nicely with our existing GH plan22:50
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