| blast007 | it* | 00:00 |
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| short_circuit | Is this 'master' branch? | 00:04 |
| short_circuit | n/m | 00:05 |
| blast007 | 2.4 | 00:06 |
| short_circuit | just update after clean. gonna make just out of curiousity. | 00:08 |
| allejo | BZFlag 2.4.20 "Do You See What I See?" | 00:10 |
| macsforme | now it seems to honor vsync if there's just another window blocking it, but it still runs unthrottled when switching it to a different space, for example | 00:10 |
| macsforme | so I guess it's less likely to be encountered, but maybe worth leaving the workaround in anyway | 00:15 |
| macsforme | I probably shouldn't have hard-coded 65 FPS, though | 00:20 |
| blast007 | short_circuit is getting two warnings in src/bzfs/RecordReplay.cxx, lines 2068 and 2069, about "specified bound 32 equals destination size [-Wstringop-truncation]" (and 128 for the second line) | 00:31 |
| blast007 | how do we fix that? | 00:31 |
| short_circuit | squee | 00:33 |
| blast007 | for some reason it didn't do it here for me - rebuilding to make sure it wasn't a wonky old build | 00:33 |
| blast007 | short_circuit: was that with --enable-debug passed to configure? | 00:33 |
| blast007 | (I'm assuming not since you ran the game afterwards, but it could have been an old binary) | 00:34 |
| short_circuit | no enable debugging | 00:35 |
| short_circuit | sry. had to... refresh myself XD | 00:36 |
| BZNotify | 2.4 @ bzflag: macsforme pushed 1 commit (https://git.io/JfLFs): | 00:37 |
| BZNotify | 2.4 @ bzflag: macsforme 8bca92: Removed the workaround for SDL bug #3146 which has been fixed (unclear when), where toggling fullscreen would mess up the windowed resolution. (https://git.io/JfLFG) | 00:37 |
| short_circuit | I haven't done debug in quite a while. I'm at your service for a while. Guys and gals. Debian 10 up to date but i assume that's not so important. | 00:38 |
| blast007 | doing a non-debug build here as it worked fine in debug | 00:39 |
| BZNotify | bzflag: macsforme edited issue #246 "Aggregated issues related to SDL 2 window creation" (https://git.io/JvMNY) | 00:39 |
| blast007 | hmm, yeah, I do see those warnings now when I build in non-debug | 00:43 |
| short_circuit | Sounds odd to this neophyte. | 00:44 |
| macsforme | anyone else think the whole main menu could be shifted down a bit now that one or two options were moved elsewhere? | 00:47 |
| blast007 | I'm scared of touching this file because last time I did, I broke replays :) | 00:47 |
| short_circuit | 8) | 00:48 |
| blast007 | I almost want to remove the resizable attribute from Linux windows as it's so very broken.. | 00:50 |
| blast007 | macsforme: including the title image at the top? | 00:55 |
| blast007 | changing line 173 to this seems to work okay in a quick test: float y = (float)_height - titleFontSize * 1.75f; | 00:56 |
| short_circuit | quick test build :) | 00:57 |
| short_circuit | n/m... :) | 00:57 |
| BZNotify | 2.4 @ bzflag: blast007 pushed 1 commit (https://git.io/JfLFA): | 00:58 |
| BZNotify | 2.4 @ bzflag: blast007 121f3d: Update the ChangeLog (https://git.io/JfLFx) | 00:58 |
| short_circuit | now quick test build XD | 00:58 |
| BZNotify | 2.4 @ bzflag-dependencies: blast007 pushed 2 commits (https://git.io/JfLFj): | 00:58 |
| BZNotify | 2.4 @ bzflag-dependencies: blast007 1681d8: Update dependencies: (https://git.io/JfLbe) | 00:58 |
| BZNotify | 2.4 @ bzflag-dependencies: blast007 8888b4: According to the PDCurses wincon/README.md, the UTF8 option alone does nothing without the WIDE option, so add the WIDE option. (https://git.io/JfLbv) | 00:58 |
| short_circuit | quick test build, no clean, no warnings | 00:59 |
| short_circuit | should I try a make clean then start over? | 00:59 |
| blast007 | short_circuit: no, the warning you have is real | 01:01 |
| blast007 | but since non-debug builds don't treat warnings as errors, it just lets it build successfully | 01:02 |
| short_circuit | Oki doki. Then no more colored letters in the scrolling foreign language ;) | 01:02 |
| blast007 | :) | 01:05 |
| BZNotify | 2.4 @ bzflag: blast007 pushed 1 commit (https://git.io/JfLbZ): | 01:10 |
| BZNotify | 2.4 @ bzflag: blast007 dc196b: Remove a couple files from the Xcode project that no longer exist. (https://git.io/JfLbn) | 01:10 |
| macsforme | blast007: https://imgur.com/a/QjdGZ15 ? | 01:16 |
| blast007 | ah, so just the menu items | 01:18 |
| blast007 | kinda looks weird with the gap | 01:20 |
| macsforme | the title and instructions were spaced out a bit more too | 01:22 |
| macsforme | not a big deal either way... I just thought it looked odd the current way | 01:24 |
| BZNotify | bzflag: allejo opened pull request #250 "Bump banner to 2.4.20" (https://git.io/JfLbH) | 01:27 |
| BZNotify | 2.4 @ bzflag: blast007 pushed 1 commit (https://git.io/JfLbQ): | 01:28 |
| BZNotify | 2.4 @ bzflag: blast007 37d97d: Space the main menu items out a bit more (https://git.io/JfLb7) | 01:28 |
| blast007 | allejo: hehe, I actually had Photoshop today so I had a modified title here :) | 01:28 |
| allejo | oh nice :D | 01:28 |
| allejo | works for me! | 01:29 |
| blast007 | is it just Arial font, right? | 01:32 |
| allejo | Arial Black | 01:35 |
| Zehra | Quick question with regards to permissions.... If the "poll" permission is not granted, but the "poll kick" permission is, what should occur? | 01:37 |
| Zehra | Or poll permission is denied. | 01:37 |
| allejo | i think poll is required | 01:38 |
| Zehra | Ah okay, was wondering if that was expected as it seemed partially counter-intuitive. | 01:39 |
| allejo | nope. for whatever reason, that's very granular compared to other stuff | 01:40 |
| blast007 | just checked my photoshop - and it is using Arial Black. I was concerned because I knew I only saw the word "Arial" on that line, but the "Black" is in the second dropdown. :) | 01:43 |
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| allejo | ah it shows up as its own font for me *shrug* | 01:47 |
| allejo | as long as it's black and not bold, it works | 01:47 |
| blast007 | maybe it's a newer Photoshop version? this is also on Windows, if that matters. | 01:48 |
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| BZNotify | 2.4 @ bzflag: blast007 pushed 1 commit (https://git.io/JfLNn): | 01:58 |
| BZNotify | 2.4 @ bzflag: blast007 da385d: Show the language name for Czech and Português. (https://git.io/JfLNc) | 01:58 |
| BZNotify | 2.4 @ bzflag: blast007 pushed 1 commit (https://git.io/JfLNz): | 02:04 |
| BZNotify | 2.4 @ bzflag: blast007 1964d1: Fix a few loss of precision warnings from Visual C++. (https://git.io/JfLNg) | 02:04 |
| blast007 | Anyone know what should be done to fix that GCC8 warning in RecordReplay.cxx? otherwise I'm just gonna wrap it in some #pragma to ignore it for now | 02:06 |
| macsforme | is it an issue with the two being the same size and it thinks there needs to be room for the terminating null byte? | 02:10 |
| macsforme | so maybe the combination of strncpy() and sizeof() is not the right | 02:11 |
| blast007 | yeah, that is the problem | 02:12 |
| macsforme | maybe strlen() instead? | 02:12 |
| blast007 | hmm | 02:12 |
| blast007 | well, that compiled without warnings now | 02:13 |
| macsforme | I wonder if that doesn't copy the terminating null, though | 02:15 |
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| blast007 | what about this afterwards? hdr.callSign[sizeof(hdr.callSign)-1] = '\0'; | 02:20 |
| blast007 | (and the same for motto) | 02:20 |
| macsforme | yeah, to be safe | 02:20 |
| blast007 | I'm gonna test this quick :) | 02:20 |
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| macsforme | it looks like others are fixing it via sizeof(source) - 1 | 02:22 |
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| blast007 | I'm just real scared to do much in this file cuz I broke it last time ;) | 02:26 |
| blast007 | okay, yeah, that does not work | 02:48 |
| blast007 | (I just get a blank author instead of the callsign) | 02:49 |
| blast007 | with 'sizeof(...) - 1' it works, though | 02:52 |
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| BZNotify | 2.4 @ bzflag: blast007 pushed 1 commit (https://git.io/JfLAh): | 03:14 |
| BZNotify | 2.4 @ bzflag: blast007 93b3f7: rrlog needs to link to libcurl because of TextUtils's URL functions (https://git.io/JfLAj) | 03:14 |
| Zehra | Perhaps some insights into https://github.com/BZFlag-Dev/bzflag/issues/248 - Rewrite BZDB to be a smarter structure #248 | 03:30 |
| macsforme | if we pass sizeof(source) - 1 as the size parameter to strncpy, it sounds like the terminating null byte does not get copied if the string is the maximum length | 03:30 |
| Zehra | What if the line of thinking is reversed to an extent with regards to the implementation. | 03:32 |
| Zehra | Rather than seeing if it is, instead if it is "logically" possible. | 03:33 |
| blast007 | macsforme: dunno.. it is working when I max out the callsign and motto length | 03:33 |
| blast007 | (at least, with what the client's UI allows for) | 03:33 |
| macsforme | the last byte might be null by chance, unless it's being cleared manually beforehand | 03:34 |
| macsforme | might still be worth it to manually zero them out, or at least the last byte of each | 03:35 |
| blast007 | okay, I'll try with zeroing out the last byte | 03:37 |
| blast007 | hmm, does this zero out everything? memset(&hdr, 0, sizeof(hdr)); | 03:46 |
| blast007 | Zehra: what? | 03:48 |
| Zehra | blast007: From what it seems, most of the issues regarding BZDB seem related to the way the data is sorted and searched... | 03:52 |
| Zehra | So what if the data is searched by a type of probability, moving on to lesser ones, minimizing the amount of calculations needed. | 03:53 |
| blast007 | sorted? | 03:53 |
| blast007 | the problem is that BZDB is slow because it's parsing strings repeatedly | 03:53 |
| Zehra | That's why it could be sorted out differently, for instance, let's use "_drawClouds" or any of the boolean variables... | 03:55 |
| Zehra | Even if I put in "random" it will still be searched... | 03:55 |
| blast007 | wut | 03:55 |
| Zehra | Try in any server variable and add in non-sensical input. | 03:55 |
| CaptainRoberts[m | Double whut? | 03:56 |
| Zehra | Most of the time, it will be "set" to it, despite not doing anything or even being "valid" as a variable. | 03:57 |
| Zehra | So what if we use the variables to determine if something should be "searched", moving on from most likely to least likely. | 03:57 |
| blast007 | I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about | 03:58 |
| blast007 | I'm gonna go back to working on releating 2.4.20 now | 03:58 |
| BZNotify | 2.4 @ bzflag: blast007 pushed 1 commit (https://git.io/JfLpf): | 03:59 |
| BZNotify | 2.4 @ bzflag: blast007 82fd45: Fix a GCC8 warning (specified bound X equals destination size [-Wstringop-truncation]) (https://git.io/JfLpJ) | 03:59 |
| The_Noah | when someone steals a flag to me the first callsign should not be repeated in the actual message, so it would be - blast: stole The Noah's flag - instead of - blast: blast stole The Noah's flag - https://imagebin.ca/v/5KIeLaIvX4ho | 04:03 |
| BZNotify | 2.4 @ bzflag: blast007 pushed 1 commit (https://git.io/JfLpW): | 04:09 |
| BZNotify | 2.4 @ bzflag: blast007 138183: Remove duplicated callsign from the flag stolen message. (https://git.io/JfLpl) | 04:09 |
| The_Noah | yay :D | 04:09 |
| blast007 | looking into one last thing and then I'll be testing builds and then pushing the version bump | 04:10 |
| The_Noah | sweet | 04:10 |
| The_Noah | is there a plan on moving to VS2019? | 04:10 |
| blast007 | going with the release name that allejo mentioned "Do You See What I See?" | 04:11 |
| blast007 | for this release? nope | 04:11 |
| The_Noah | No not for this release, but sometime in the "near" future. | 04:12 |
| blast007 | I only have 2017 at the moment and I try to avoid having multiple versions installed at once | 04:12 |
| blast007 | for master, probably | 04:12 |
| blast007 | does 2019 still work on Windows 7? ;) | 04:13 |
| The_Noah | idk, I haven't used Window 7 in years :D | 04:13 |
| * blast007 still has it on his dev workstation | 04:13 | |
| blast007 | I had 8.1 and now 10 on my gaming machine | 04:14 |
| The_Noah | I only used Windows 8 once, it was on my sister's laptop and it was very interesting. | 04:15 |
| blast007 | I don't really use the Windows 7 system for anything except development now | 04:15 |
| blast007 | my main systems are all Debian | 04:15 |
| allejo | wooo my release name was picked :D | 04:15 |
| The_Noah | :) | 04:15 |
| the_map | that's the name you choose, after 2.4.12 "Silence is Golden"? :p | 04:18 |
| the_map | wait nvm it's 2.4.18 that's relevant | 04:19 |
| allejo | :p | 04:19 |
| blast007 | allejo: okay, the reason some options get reset (such as blending) when going from 2.4.19 to an older version is because there didn't use to be defaults for those options | 04:19 |
| blast007 | it use to be set during the performance test | 04:20 |
| blast007 | because there are defaults now, the value isn't stored if it matches the default | 04:20 |
| blast007 | think I should change that, or is it fine? | 04:20 |
| blast007 | to be fair, downgrading the config file isn't a "supported" thing so I'm inclined to just leave it as is | 04:21 |
| allejo | do we forsee players needing to downgrade from 2.4.20? | 04:21 |
| allejo | right, we don't need to support going backwards | 04:21 |
| blast007 | I feel it's a minor issue | 04:22 |
| allejo | was just bothersome whenever i was testing a dev build but we're not breaking backward-compat so i think it's fine to leave as is | 04:22 |
| blast007 | k | 04:23 |
| BZNotify | 2.4 @ bzflag: blast007 pushed 1 commit (https://git.io/JfLpX): | 04:34 |
| BZNotify | 2.4 @ bzflag: blast007 2567e5: Bump version to 2.4.20. (https://git.io/JfLp1) | 04:34 |
| BZNotify | bzflag: allejo closed pull request #250 "Bump banner to 2.4.20" (https://git.io/JfLbH) | 04:42 |
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| BZNotify | bzflag: blast007 tagged * 2567e5 (Bump version to 2.4.20.) as v2.4.20 (https://git.io/JfLpp) | 04:55 |
| blast007 | working on the site update and forum post | 04:55 |
| allejo | yayyyy | 04:55 |
| * allejo claps | 04:55 | |
| * allejo cheers | 04:56 | |
| * The_Noah keep pushing refresh on the website | 04:56 | |
| blast007 | The_Noah: you'll see the commit get pushed here first ;) | 05:00 |
| The_Noah | Ah sweet. | 05:00 |
| blast007 | (and then the update cron job has to run) | 05:00 |
| The_Noah | :D | 05:01 |
| blast007 | my internet went down right as I was pushing the commit :P | 05:10 |
| The_Noah | :p | 05:11 |
| BZNotify | master @ bzflag.org: blast007 pushed 1 commit (https://git.io/JfLhq): | 05:12 |
| BZNotify | master @ bzflag.org: blast007 ee778b: Add the 2.4.20 release. (https://git.io/JfLhm) | 05:12 |
| The_Noah | Done installing :D | 05:17 |
| The_Noah | quick question what is remote sounds? | 05:21 |
| The_Noah | Also the MOTD needs to be updated :) | 05:23 |
| blast007 | oh yeah | 05:24 |
| blast007 | looks like Remote Sounds controls if you hear the burrow, jump, wings flap, or bounce sounds of remote players | 05:27 |
| blast007 | or the 'land' sound | 05:27 |
| The_Noah | huh, interesting. | 05:30 |
| * blast007 will deal with the flatpak tomorrow... | 06:02 | |
| BZNotify | master @ bzflag.org: blast007 pushed 2 commits (https://git.io/JfLhi): | 06:06 |
| BZNotify | master @ bzflag.org: blast007 bab46c: Clarify the release description. (https://git.io/JfLhP) | 06:06 |
| BZNotify | master @ bzflag.org: blast007 35a508: Update the MOTD. (https://git.io/JfLhX) | 06:06 |
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| tupone | I see in github the tar but "Latest release" is still 2.4.18. Is the 2.4.20 ready to be deployed ? | 08:33 |
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| blast007 | tupone: yeah, I'll update that too. I was sleepy. :) | 11:51 |
| BZNotify | master @ bzflag.org: blast007 pushed 1 commit (https://git.io/JftT7): | 12:04 |
| BZNotify | master @ bzflag.org: blast007 271875: Mention the improved default options. (https://git.io/JftT5) | 12:04 |
| tupone | blast007: can we publish it? it is still draft there | 12:32 |
| blast007 | I was thinking of waiting until the macOS build is posted | 12:47 |
| tupone | ok. I published the ebuild for gentoo | 14:21 |
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| macsforme | blast007: ah, I didn't see the line above where it was already zeroed out | 15:46 |
| macsforme | how hard would it be to add a note to the website about how to bypass gatekeeper on macOS? | 15:50 |
| macsforme | I don't have a signing key anymore, and even if I did, Apple requires notarization in later versions of Mojave and all versions of Catalina, which I think requires a current developer subscription anytime you want to distribute a new build, and I don't feel like dealing with that | 15:52 |
| macsforme | unless they'll give us a free membership, as in https://developer.apple.com/support/membership-fee-waiver/ | 15:53 |
| CaptainRoberts[m | are you going to port bzflag to metal or vulkan? | 15:54 |
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| blast007 | CaptainRoberts[m: my thought is to gradually migrate to GLSL shaders, and then we could look at something like bgfx which uses a GLSL-like shader language to target a bunch of different graphics APIs (various versions of Direct3D, Vulkan, OpenGL, and Metal) | 16:45 |
| blast007 | or if we did manage to port to Vulkan, there's MoltenVK to translate Vulkan to Metal | 16:46 |
| CaptainRoberts[m | yes, you will have to do something like that in order to continue to support the mac platform. I highly doubt future ARM macs will include legacy GL support. | 16:55 |
| macsforme | macOS build is posted... again, we could use some kind of note about how to bypass gatekeeper | 17:03 |
| blast007 | is the trick to right/control click and click open? or do you have to go into the System Preferences > Security & Privacy and click "Open Anyway"? | 17:12 |
| macsforme | right-click or two-finger click on touchpads, then click open in the override dialog | 17:13 |
| macsforme | control-click also seems to do the same thing | 17:14 |
| blast007 | macsforme: on the Download page, we do have some OS specific instructions. I could expand it to this: | 18:09 |
| blast007 | If you use Homebrew on macOS, you may download BZFlag via the brew command. Alternatively, you may download our binary below and drag the .app into your Applications directory. Then right/control click (or two finger tap) on the application and choose Open. | 18:09 |
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| BZNotify | master @ bzflag.org: allejo pushed 1 commit (https://git.io/JftCB): | 20:05 |
| BZNotify | master @ bzflag.org: allejo 64c0a6: Add --no-quarantine flag to brew command (https://git.io/JftCR) | 20:05 |
| allejo | should README.linux be updated to use SDL2? | 20:27 |
| blast007 | yeah.. I thought about that after the fact.. | 20:28 |
| blast007 | 2.4.22 "SDL2 too" | 20:29 |
| Zehra | The "20" release in the year 2020. (A nice little coincidence. Or perhaps it was preplanned, hehe.) | 20:35 |
| blast007 | 2.4.20 released on 4.24.20 ("four twenty four tenty") | 20:38 |
| blast007 | which, I think mainly works in the US cuz elsewhere, better date formats are used. | 20:40 |
| Zehra | True, the irony is the occasional confusion it causes with schedules. | 20:42 |
| Zehra | "was it the fifth month or the fifth day?" | 20:43 |
| allejo | is there a libsdl-sound2-dev? or does that version not match libsdl1.2-dev? | 21:00 |
| blast007 | I think sound is just part of the base SDL2 | 21:03 |
| blast007 | at least basic audio | 21:04 |
| blast007 | we do our own mixing AFAIK, so we don't need sdl2-mixer | 21:04 |
| BZNotify | master @ bzflag.org: blast007 pushed 2 commits (https://git.io/Jft4T): | 22:12 |
| BZNotify | master @ bzflag.org: blast007 58492e: Add macOS 2.4.20 release. (https://git.io/Jft4k) | 22:12 |
| BZNotify | master @ bzflag.org: blast007 2b2279: Add note about how to bypass the Gatekeeper restriction. (https://git.io/Jft4I) | 22:12 |
| BZNotify | master @ bzflag.org: allejo pushed 1 commit (https://git.io/Jft4c): | 22:17 |
| BZNotify | master @ bzflag.org: allejo 9d0656: 2.4.20 is now published on snapcraft and flatpak (https://git.io/Jft4C) | 22:17 |
| BZNotify | master @ bzflag.org: allejo pushed 1 commit (https://git.io/Jft48): | 22:18 |
| BZNotify | master @ bzflag.org: allejo 7e7e09: Fix the release day in the downloads include (https://git.io/Jft44) | 22:18 |
| blast007 | hah.. funny we never noticed that.. | 22:20 |
| blast007 | also, the flatpak is still pulling .18 at the moment | 22:21 |
| blast007 | does flathub have to manually approve new builds? | 22:21 |
| blast007 | For the snapcraft, should we use a different base? https://snapcraft.io/docs/base-snaps I was going to try core18, but I couldn't test the build because I was running Ubuntu in a VM, and the snapcraft builds it a VM itself. | 22:24 |
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| allejo | i don't really understand snapcraft. what'd be the difference other than getting the new base? | 22:27 |
| allejo | and i'm looking for flatpak. it says it'll be auto deployed in 24 hours or done manually. but i can't find where to do it manually | 22:28 |
| blast007 | maybe it's hooked up to a clapper | 22:28 |
| * blast007 claps | 22:28 | |
| blast007 | did it work? | 22:28 |
| allejo | i think you need to clap near the buildbot :p | 22:29 |
| allejo | https://github.com/flathub/flathub/wiki/App-Maintenance#buildbot | 22:29 |
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| blast007 | https://snapcraft.io/docs/release-notes-snapcraft-3-0 "The following are new when using base:" | 22:30 |
| allejo | btw are you *sure* you don't want access to flathub and snapcraft? i'm the only one with access right now | 22:30 |
| blast007 | I can't tell if that's an empty list, or if the stuff like "license" is the new stuff you can use. :P | 22:31 |
| allejo | oh wow, snapcraft supports mac now? | 22:31 |
| allejo | ah found the publish button | 22:32 |
| allejo | for flathub i.e. i think | 22:33 |
| blast007 | I'd be fine having access to flathub and snapcraft. What's involved for flathub? For snapcraft I assume I need a Ubuntu One account. | 22:40 |
| allejo | correct for snapcraft. for flathub, i think you just need your github account. added to the repo and i *think* that should give you to their dashboard? that's how I authed and had access to publish | 22:41 |
| blast007 | bleh, snapcraft won't work with the snapd that's in Debian 10... | 22:44 |
| blast007 | they're really making it difficult :P | 22:44 |
| allejo | wait what? why won't it? | 22:45 |
| blast007 | says it needs snapd 2.39 or newer, and Debian 10 has 2.37 | 22:45 |
| allejo | pfft | 22:47 |
| blast007 | I'll probably just end up installing Ubuntu on something here | 22:48 |
| allejo | yea, i have an old laptop that has ubuntu on it and it's what I use | 22:49 |
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