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| spldart | OT but BZ related cuz of the channels I haunt. Best android irc app?? :) | 11:35 |
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| blast007 | an SSH client to a linux box running screen or tmux with irssi ;) | 11:42 |
| * blast007 ducks | 11:42 | |
| spldart | flings | 11:42 |
| spldart | lmao | 11:42 |
| spldart | I could do an irssi in screen. Got screen going on my server. and my phone does have terminus and I can log into my server and check my bxflags so .. yeah. | 11:43 |
| spldart | That's do able | 11:43 |
| spldart | been a while since I used irssi.. bit rusty | 11:44 |
| spldart | actually. I like this idea :) Kinda. It's a real nerdy approach. | 11:45 |
| blast007 | I use JuiceSSH | 11:49 |
| blast007 | another option would be running a Quassel core on your linux system and then connecting a Quassel client from your android device (or computers) to that core | 11:50 |
| spldart | Now you have got me googling | 11:51 |
| spldart | irssi has changed quite a bit in 11 years | 11:56 |
| spldart | or has it... | 11:57 |
| spldart | hrm | 11:57 |
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| Foo_man_choo | TeeHee | 12:05 |
| spldart | teehee | 12:05 |
| spldart | this was a great idea. thanks for reminding me of these old skills blast ;) | 12:06 |
| spldart | by by Foo | 12:06 |
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| blast007 | :) | 12:35 |
| spldart | *me* goes to check if he can start the lawn mower | 12:40 |
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| the-map | short_circuit: I use tmux + weechat, with connectbot for ssh. it's worked well on desktop and decently on mobile for me, but there are some quirks. idk how it compares to other options though | 12:55 |
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| short_circuit | thanks the-map ;) I still have some googling to do but need shower... Mower works 8D | 13:39 |
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| The_Noah | So there has been a cheater on BZ the last few days, and one of his cheats was to teleport. But I thought the server was authoritive on position? | 18:22 |
| blast007 | nope, not really | 18:23 |
| Zehra | Not much really changed from 2.x to 2.4.x. | 18:24 |
| The_Noah | Is the server authoritive on anything really? | 18:26 |
| blast007 | the score, I think | 18:26 |
| The_Noah | :) | 18:26 |
| The_Noah | That's good I guess | 18:26 |
| The_Noah | Can 2 registered players get on Easy Tank's Super Server so we can ban this guy again please? | 18:27 |
| Zehra | Sure. | 18:27 |
| blast007 | there is some basic anti-cheat code for detecting poorly implemented cheats (such as just increasing the tank velocity), but teleporting and just moving further while lying about your speed will get past it | 18:27 |
| alfa1 | though one can change the score by plug-ins (which is other topic, I guess) | 18:30 |
| Zehra | If there is enough interest, I may work on a plug-in to combat the teleporting cheat. (Even though there is other priorities at the moment to combat cheating.) | 18:31 |
| alfa1 | "just moving further while lying about your speed"? | 18:32 |
| The_Noah | The cheats I observed him using was teleporting right behind me (and killing me) not dying when shooting himself with laser, jumping in mid-air without wings, and killing me without shooting me. | 18:33 |
| Zehra | Those are old cheats, nothing new, I probably will write up a doc on it. | 18:33 |
| alfa1 | "jumping in mid-air without wings" that is a famous one, then truly | 18:34 |
| The_Noah | Should it not be "fairly" simple to combat that in the server code? | 18:34 |
| Zehra | The client makes most of the decisions.... | 18:34 |
| Zehra | Also you do not want to risk tons of false positives. | 18:35 |
| Zehra | Lag can give the appearance of lots of cheats. | 18:35 |
| The_Noah | Lag shouldn't cause someone to go suddenly go up in mid air (without Wings) | 18:36 |
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| Zehra | Would you believe I've been autokicked from servers from "being too high" from minimizing the client? | 18:37 |
| Zehra | That's happened a few times, so no, it is not that simple. | 18:37 |
| The_Noah | oh | 18:37 |
| The_Noah | :( | 18:38 |
| Zehra | Sure the checks can be made, but false positives can happen. | 18:38 |
| Zehra | Same as one of those shot detecting cheats... | 18:38 |
| alfa1 | unless you hear the "jump" sound from someone in middle of air, Zehra :P | 18:38 |
| alfa1 | flagrant one | 18:38 |
| Zehra | hehe | 18:39 |
| blast007 | alfa1: which still implies that the server is authoritative of the score :) | 18:40 |
| alfa1 | ok :) | 18:40 |
| alfa1 | though was a good API change; it permits a new scores system like mine | 18:41 |
| blast007 | Zehra: I don't know if a plugin has access to enough information to detect that | 18:41 |
| alfa1 | or btw* | 18:41 |
| blast007 | we also don't need a "doc" about it | 18:41 |
| Zehra | I do recall that a few anti-cheat plug-ins have been made at one point, some with varying degrees of success. | 18:42 |
| blast007 | waste of time | 18:42 |
| blast007 | if you're bothering to write the code to do it, do it in bzfs proper, not a plugin | 18:42 |
| Zehra | Alright, will do. | 18:43 |
| Zehra | Mostly thought of this as an easier way to roll out a temporary measure, but a more permanent solution would be better. | 18:44 |
| blast007 | I don't think a plugin knows where teleporters are located | 18:48 |
| Zehra | It doesn't, zones could be added or the locations roughly specified, so when a player teleports from or to somewhere which is at least 10 units away from where a teleporter is, it would provide a kick and ban. | 18:49 |
| Zehra | Not the best solution, but still possibly somewhat effective. | 18:49 |
| Zehra | 10 units to take into account for possible lag and nobody should have lag over 600 when playing. | 18:50 |
| Zehra | My reasoning may be bad and could probably fail, although I do believe it can work. | 18:51 |
| Zehra | Would BZFS know of teleporter locations? | 18:51 |
| blast007 | yeah.. it knows what the world is | 18:51 |
| blast007 | it just doesn't currently do a lot with that information | 18:52 |
| Zehra | I suppose I'll begin checking within the master branch to see on developing a counter to the teleporter hack within the next 2 weeks or months. | 18:55 |
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| BZNotify | bzflag: The-Noah opened issue #211 "Got shot by Lazer while holding Cloaking" (https://git.io/fjH6b) | 19:27 |
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