IRC logs of Libera.Chat #BZFlag for Tuesday, 2026-08-25

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TimRikerI moved bzo over to timriker/ as there were a bunch of token and packaging permissions I don't have in BZFlag-Dev.04:25
TimRikerthe docker image for arm64 and amd64 are both working. I've made a number of releases. current is 1.0.2404:26
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blast007Sythos: One reason I'm still on VS2017 is that I know it can still target Windows Vista. The last release or two had only run correctly on Windows 8 or newer, but that was some regression in a third-party library that I think it resolved now.18:34
blast007is resolved*18:35
blast007I think 2019 might support it as well. 2022 drops support for Vista, and 2026 drops support for 7, 8, and 8.1.18:46
TimRikerbzo now renders non-functional teleporters and bases. https://bz.rikers.org18:56
blast007Sythos: x64 support was held back by third-party dependencies, since some of they didn't easily support building for 64-bit with the build method we were using. I'm almost done moving that all over to CMake though, which seems to build them all fine. For arm64, I don't have any hardware to test that on. I had purchased a Lenovo mini PC with a Snapdragon X, but that thing suuuucked. I hadn't ...19:00
blast007... gotten around to building it all for arm64, but the 32-bit x86 Windows version ran slower on that system than it did on Pi OS a Raspberry Pi 4.19:00
blast007(also, re: x64 support - we didn't really have a good reason for 64-bit on Windows, since we're not using much RAM)19:01
blast007That Lenovo was so bad that I returned it.19:04
Sythosblast007: it'0s fine, the question was because i use usually GH to compile and create installers for other my stuff, locally i've just my pi4 like you for quick tests :)19:08
Sythossince (if i'm right) none had paid for a electronic signatures for installers for macosx or win... github can create universal dmg and nsis installers unsigned19:09
Sythosjust to get if you're lazy like me and let gh do boring jobs :D19:09
blast007As much as I'm trying to streamline the build process, I don't know if I like the idea of automated installer builds.19:09
Sythosgot it19:09
blast007I do have signed/notarized builds for macOS for last couple releases, and we had them in the past as well. There was a set of 2.4 releases that were unsigned though.19:10
blast007(well, I think the past it was just signed, since the notary thing was newer)19:10
blast007The Windows builds aren't signed right now. I was going to get an EV code signing cert, but apparently that doesn't really do much anymore. That used to automatically get you past Smartscreen, but that stopped working a year or so ago.19:11
Sythosoh my fault, seeing on forum and gh i've not got this, better if you have (i'm a retired vintage debian user with hoodie, i've stopped to work on apple OS after jobs O:) )19:11
Sythoswindows, so far, is just a warning, but i've still xcode subscription and if i've got right the total lock for unsigned in macosx will be not so far19:12
blast007yeah, the Windows one is a tad annoying still. I've seen screenshots where you have to click multiple things to get it to show you the allow button.19:14
blast007https://github.com/BZFlag-Dev/bzflag/issues/324     https://stackoverflow.com/questions/77101110/smartscreen-still-gives-warning-with-ev-code-signing-certificate19:17
Sythosi've found time ago a website providing a signature if you're noprofit and sort of, but never gone deeper19:17
Sythoshttps://signpath.org/ i've kept it in bookmarks :D19:18
blast007there's a number of things about signpath.org that don't jive we me, including the inability to sign our dependency DLLs, the need to advertise their company, and it requires an automated build19:27
blast007with me*19:28
Sythosyep, also the name as publisher is their and not you19:30
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