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| Juest | for some reason when the system is slow bzflag causes windows to disable composition | 23:10 |
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| Juest | seems only on first startup | 23:11 |
| Juest | subsequent are fine | 23:11 |
| Juest | idk how to debug this hard to repro | 23:11 |
| blast007 | what GPU? | 23:16 |
| Juest | blast007: it also seems to just be in a not responding fest after freezing for a while when connected, had to reconnect to fix it | 23:18 |
| Juest | gtx 1660 | 23:18 |
| Juest | windows 7 | 23:18 |
| Juest | last whql 472 driver | 23:18 |
| Juest | its not a gpu issue | 23:18 |
| Juest | its windows composition | 23:18 |
| Juest | something slow in the bzf init causes it | 23:19 |
| Juest | also umm i cant really copy the version string from the game | 23:19 |
| blast007 | well, I know at least it isn't the latest release :) | 23:20 |
| Juest | the computer that built bzflag is not working | 23:21 |
| Juest | so i cant recompile myself | 23:21 |
| Zehra | Windows 7 is out of support for quite a long while, IIRC. | 23:22 |
| Juest | Zehra: dont care, i have it updated, im not interested in that age old discussion | 23:22 |
| Juest | its a grandfathered computer | 23:23 |
| Juest | lots of software that will break if upgraded | 23:23 |
| Zehra | Juest: It's just an observation of it possibly having an issue outside of BZ. Since computers tend to slow down when bugged. | 23:24 |
| Juest | Zehra: its on hdd so thats more likely than actual bugs | 23:25 |
| Juest | shame that bzflag doesnt have logs on file but stdout which is debugger output on windows | 23:26 |
| Juest | like out of the box | 23:27 |
| Juest | i know there's a an argument for it | 23:27 |
| Juest | but its bugged on windows i recall | 23:27 |
| Juest | BZFlag client 2.4.27.20241112-DEVEL-Win32VC14-SDL2 (protocol 0221) http://BZFlag.org/ | 23:28 |
| Juest | Copyright (c) 1993-2023 Tim Riker | 23:28 |
| Juest | here you go | 23:28 |
| Juest | its tip of the tree at that time with the old dependencies | 23:29 |
| Juest | previous dependencies i mean | 23:29 |
| Zehra | IDK, taking a quick guess: Issue starts on first startup, doesn't happen on second startup. BZ freezes after a while when connected, but reconnecting seems to fix it. | 23:30 |
| Juest | Zehra: they're not related to each other | 23:30 |
| Juest | if bz takes too long to startup which is usually first uncached startup it may trigger windows disabling composition | 23:31 |
| Juest | if it freezes at the last stage connecting to a server it'll enter into a weird state where tanks constantly stop responding and respond again on flag actions | 23:31 |
| Zehra | Juest: Do you have any other apps which use SDL2? | 23:31 |
| Juest | armagetron advanced | 23:32 |
| Juest | :) | 23:32 |
| Juest | and steam | 23:32 |
| Juest | and rvgl | 23:32 |
| Juest | no issues there | 23:32 |
| Juest | you're known for wasting time with ambitious nonsense, please don't | 23:33 |
| Zehra | I'll shut up | 23:33 |
| blast007 | Juest: by "I know at least it isn't the latest release" I was talking about how the official 2.4.20 doesn't work on Vista or 7 because c-ares fails to initialize | 23:44 |
| blast007 | 2.4.30* | 23:44 |
| blast007 | if there's a specific message that windows shows when it happens, I might be able to find something. Just seaching for "windows 7 disabling compositing" is just yielding results with instructions for how to disable compositing | 23:46 |
| Juest | blast007: this is an automated thing that windows does that disables composing on its own if an app has trouble with it or its set in compatibility which is not the case | 23:47 |
| Juest | or doesnt support composition | 23:48 |
| Juest | that search is more user oriented or at least thats what the indexer assumes | 23:48 |
| Juest | it sucks for this kind of stuff | 23:48 |
| Juest | i get no notification of the composition being disabled though | 23:50 |
| Juest | meh | 23:53 |
| Juest | im reading and it seems to be gpu vram out of memory | 23:53 |
| Juest | when its not the case | 23:53 |
| Juest | im just launching bzflag after a while | 23:53 |
| Juest | whatever, no point in burning the head with this issue | 23:54 |
| Juest | sorry | 23:54 |
| blast007 | one would think that 6GB should be plenty | 23:55 |
| Juest | yeah it is | 23:55 |
| Juest | also this is not a true oom | 23:55 |
| Juest | its preemptively saving itself | 23:56 |
| Juest | vram ooms are harder than composition disabling | 23:56 |
| Juest | also this is happening when i launch an app | 23:56 |
| Juest | bzflag out of all things | 23:56 |
| Juest | hit harder* | 23:57 |
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