IRC logs of Libera.Chat #BZFlag for Tuesday, 2025-04-29

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blast007tupone: I'll try that out soon on multiple platforms12:13
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tuponeblast007: actually I don't know when some feature is not available what you will see. Difficult to understand if it works17:38
tuponeonly with debug on old openGL is possible to check if glad is correct 17:38
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blast007mesa environment variables MESA_GL_VERSION_OVERRIDE, MESA_EXTENSION_OVERRIDE, and MESA_EXTENSION_MAX_YEAR could come in handy for testing21:56
blast007https://docs.mesa3d.org/envvars.html21:56
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blast007wonder if anything that can run BZFlag can also run this AGP nVidia TNT2 card I have  :P22:05
blast007that's OpenGL 1.222:05
blast007heh, and I checked what this *other* card was, and it's *also* a TNT2, but with 16MB instead of 32MB22:06
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blast007tupone: honestly, it might be difficult to find a device that doesn't support the extensions we use  :)22:26
blast007GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp might be one with limited support.  This is data from 2015, but there's a bunch of nVidia cards that don't appear to support that extension:   https://feedback.wildfiregames.com/report/opengl/22:30
Juestblast007: weak nvidia cards?22:49
blast007Juest: I wouldn't say weak.  There's the GTX 980 Ti and even the GTX Titan.22:52
blast007I'd have to actually verify if they really lack that extension.22:53
Juesthuh, so its just nvidia dropping sgi support?22:53
blast007I don't even know if SGIS refers to SGI22:54
blast007seems like there's also a GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp extension that the nvidia cards *do* report: https://github.com/SFML/SFML/issues/88022:58
blast007SFML now checks for either extension: https://github.com/SFML/SFML/pull/882/files22:58
blast007SFML might be a decent reference for use our use glad since they use that and check for various extensions23:03
blast007for our use of*23:03
blast007I apparently had a stroke while writing the middle of that sentence :P23:04
Juestheh23:06

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