IRC logs of Libera.Chat #BZFlag for Tuesday, 2024-05-14

blast007Juest: why?00:17
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Juestblast007: let's not avoid a situation where tupone changes are to blame for breakage on release02:28
Juestoops, i meant lets avoid such situation02:28
blast007Juest: if you want to test the code, test it02:35
blast007run the game02:35
Juestblast007: yeah, but i dont know what exactly to specifically test02:55
blast007just play the game and see if anything seems different03:00
Juesti cant tell because i dont play the game frequently03:08
Juesti'd like to test specific scenarios that test the changes made03:09
SpringTankJuest, sometimes dont know what is going to break or when.03:36
SpringTankSo just goof off on a server and have some fun.03:37
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Agathamemcpy is required to be passed a non-null pointer, even with length zero, so if a null pointer is indeed being passed, that's enough to say it's wrong, prima facie04:33
BulletCatcherhttps://elixir.bootlin.com/glibc/latest/source/string/memcpy.c reveals that a null pointer is *not* dereferenced when the length is zero.04:49
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tuponethe qsort and memcpy are not a problem with the current compilers. except that they stop working with sanitizer.06:30
tuponebut they are violations of the current standard06:30
tuponejuest, i dont play windows sry, and most of them are leak06:32
tuponethe changes are mostly few lines of code. so you can easily check how to test06:34
Juestlately there been quite a few small changes to 2.406:36
Juesti guess i'll figure out something06:36
Juestbreakpoint will help perhaps?06:37
Juestthanks for the suggestions06:38
JuestSpringTank: i guess i'll try, with a debugger attached :p06:38
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AgathaBulletCatcher: an implementation in some library is one thing, but violating the standard is quite another. In particular, there's a good reason not to: compilers recognize memcpy-like operations, and compile them into memcpy calls, which are then elided at the assembly level.15:33
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BulletCatcherAgatha: Where can I read the memcpy "standard"?22:55
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BulletCatcherhttps://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/functions/memcpy.html is silent about null pointers.23:22
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