IRC logs of Libera.Chat #BZFlag for Friday, 2024-01-12

Juestmacsforme: is it possible to build apple silicon binaries yet?00:10
blast007Juest: what do you mean?  we already have them00:12
Juestblast007: ah ok, im building dependencies, is it aarch64 already?00:12
blast007have had them for two releases00:13
Juest2.4 is aarch64 compatible?00:13
blast007I don't know how to answer that any more than I already have00:13
blast007we literally have posted Apple Silicon builds for the last two 2.4 releases00:14
ZehraJuest: It's one thing for them to be compiled into binaries... but it's the app signing/verification type of thing which is being worked on....00:14
Juestthanks blast007, i forgot or wasn't aware because i usually dont have a apple silicon computer on my hands00:14
JuestZehra: i've read00:15
ZehraA.k.a. both macOS and Windows platforms want some sort of "verification"/"signature" and that's pretty much one thing which is on-going IIRC of some sorts... (I might be wrong with the info or it may be dated.)00:16
JuestZehra: I said I am aware00:19
Juestblast007: what do you suggest as for the procedure of building bzflag with xcode on macos? do i make it an archive and have homebrew installed?00:20
Juesti do not have homebrew here, i dont use that00:20
Juestis there support for brew-less installs?00:20
Agathasudo apt install windows-vista00:23
Juestoh come on00:24
Zehralol00:24
ZehraREADME.MacOSX00:27
Zehra"You can build BZFlag from source using Xcode version 7 and later"00:27
Zehra"NOTICE: If you're compiling from source, it is expected that you have sufficient/proficient understanding of how to compile applications on the command line or using XCode and how to perform compilation troubleshooting without assistance."00:29
JuestZehra: it does not mention anything about homebrew installed benefits00:38
ZehraJuest: It's confusing in this case: "i do not have homebrew here, i dont use that"00:40
ZehraAnd then asking for benefits of homebrew. (I don't use that either too.)00:40
JuestZehra: i do not use nor have the Homebrew package manager installed00:46
Juestoh i see00:47
Juestsorry00:47
Juestim just asking for its benefits in relation to the bzflag project00:47
ZehraNp Juest, I've also lobbied heavily for new features to benefit BZ00:50
* Juest shrugs00:53
blast007Zehra: which features?01:12
Zehrablast007: ShotID from server shots being available in the API. Being able to spawn team flags without SSPs or server modifications.01:14
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macsformeJuest: installing bz via homebrew seems roughly equivalent to downloading it from the web and extracting it to the applications folder, although I assume with brew you can have the benefit of having brew perform app updates as well03:56
macsformeand yes, you can "install" bz on macOS by downloading it (or building it yourself) and putting the build in your applications folder as I mentioned... if you were anticipating a gnu "make install" style of installation, that's not what brew does (you can read up on the "cask" feature)03:59
macsformeI'm not sure what you mean about Xcode, archives, and homebrew04:01
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Juestmacsforme: im talking about the developer environment benefits of homebrew12:36
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