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blast007 | could someone with ops on the freenode #bzflag run /mode -q $~a | 01:27 |
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blast007 | someone still in the channel, that is, since if you connect now you'll probably end up on their new servers | 01:28 |
spldart | Looked over an hour ago to what looked like a massive netsplit with only macsforme appearing in my idling window of freenode - #bzflag. My usernames were dead. I need to read my memo's :( | 01:33 |
blast007 | Freenode is migrating to a new IRCd and services, and didn't migrate any of the channel or nickname registrations | 01:35 |
blast007 | so yeah.. no point in even connecting to Freenode anymore | 01:36 |
spldart | Yeah. Just read the handy tutorial on on #bzflag then googled a libera how to and set up here breeze easy :) | 01:36 |
macsforme | blast007: done, I think... somehow it looked like I was the only one there | 02:01 |
blast007 | yeah, that would be the other split chunk of the old network | 02:02 |
blast007 | the old network split several hours ago | 02:02 |
macsforme | should I do anything else? | 02:03 |
blast007 | maybe just change the topic to: Freenode is dead. We have moved to Libera.Chat. https://libera.chat/guides/connect https://forums.bzflag.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=20503 | 02:04 |
blast007 | in case anyone somehow ends up there | 02:04 |
macsforme | done... standing by to be k-lined | 02:05 |
blast007 | :) | 02:05 |
the_map | "oh no" | 02:06 |
blast007 | I also dropped my nick, but you can't do that from that chunk of the network. Seems that rinnegan.freenode.net (IP 212.102.48.58 and 2a02:6ea0:c312::6667) is still up with the services. | 02:09 |
allejo | wait. are they just naming all of their IRC servers after naruto terminology? | 02:11 |
the_map | I thought that first token was "rasegan" | 02:12 |
blast007 | maybe the new servers are going to be the next hokage | 02:13 |
blast007 | believe it | 02:13 |
allejo | well that's the dude's nickname. didn't think it would move to IRC server naming convention lol | 02:13 |
allejo | lol blast | 02:13 |
macsforme | allejo: is that like anime? | 02:13 |
allejo | yes | 02:13 |
blast007 | uh oh, we talked about anime in macsforme's presense | 02:13 |
* allejo hides | 02:13 | |
blast007 | QUICK, DO THE NARUTO RUN | 02:14 |
the_map | your punishment, he gets one punch | 02:14 |
macsforme | what's the op command again? ;-) | 02:14 |
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allejo | :p | 02:14 |
macsforme | ah ha, powers | 02:14 |
blast007 | macsforme why did your hair turn golden! | 02:15 |
allejo | oh no... he's going to start screaming for 3 episodes! | 02:17 |
blast007 | and this.. is to go.. even further.. beyond... aaaaAAAAAAA | 02:18 |
allejo | aww no... did we lose our karma?? | 02:19 |
blast007 | from tim's bot? | 02:20 |
allejo | yea | 02:20 |
blast007 | dunno if he'll join it here | 02:20 |
blast007 | he didn't respond to my email about us moving to Libera. | 02:20 |
allejo | of course he didn't | 02:20 |
blast007 | I sent that on the 2nd | 02:21 |
blast007 | be funny if he joins Freenode now and is like "wait, whever is everyone" | 02:21 |
blast007 | where* | 02:21 |
the_map | "why do I need to register my nick?" | 02:22 |
blast007 | then again, he hasn't been on IRC in over a year | 02:23 |
the_map | man, imagine if you stopped watching news at the end of 2019 and tuned in a year later | 02:24 |
spldart | X~D | 02:24 |
allejo | https://twitter.com/thought_grime/status/1392543665138978816 | 02:24 |
the_map | https://xkcd.com/2474/ | 02:25 |
the_map | third entry up, in particular | 02:25 |
allejo | lol | 02:26 |
JeffM[m] | so they just trashed the entire freenode network, and are making a new one, with hookers and blackjack? | 02:47 |
sean[m] | lol | 02:47 |
spldart | 8O | 02:47 |
blast007 | except without the hookers and blackjack | 02:48 |
JeffM[m] | sadness and dispair? | 02:48 |
the_map | didn't you hear them? it's a bright future for Freenode | 02:48 |
spldart | gonads and strife | 02:48 |
blast007 | a bright new future - they're going to sell Freenode branded flashlights! | 02:48 |
JeffM[m] | if that other guy can sell flamethrowers... | 02:49 |
blast007 | a flamethrower than isn't even a decent flamethrower | 02:49 |
JeffM[m] | so maybe they will be freenode laser pointers | 02:50 |
blast007 | and they'll be specially engineered to always aim into your eyes | 02:51 |
JeffM[m] | so you can "see the light" | 02:51 |
blast007 | :) | 02:51 |
blast007 | but don't worry everyone, this is for FOSS | 02:51 |
allejo | freenode hats! | 02:52 |
JeffM[m] | For Owning Some Servers | 02:52 |
blast007 | lol JeffM[m] | 02:52 |
the_map | wait what flamethrowers are we talking about? | 02:53 |
JeffM[m] | musk | 02:53 |
allejo | https://www.boringcompany.com/not-a-flamethrower | 02:54 |
the_map | "Fire extinguisher sold separately" | 02:55 |
JeffM[m] | so glad I never went forward with the IRC as game chat backend :) | 02:56 |
allejo | | . | 02:56 |
the_map | . | | 02:57 |
allejo | |. | 02:57 |
the_map | | ° | 02:57 |
the_map | darn | 02:57 |
spldart | hehe | 02:57 |
allejo | :D | 02:58 |
Flash | as a protocol, IRC isn't bad. Freenode as an implementation imploded | 03:03 |
JeffM[m] | it's very wordy | 03:03 |
blast007 | if we had done IRC for our chat, I assume we would have run out own instances | 03:04 |
JeffM[m] | probably | 03:04 |
blast007 | our* | 03:04 |
JeffM[m] | or at least your own domain name to redirect | 03:05 |
blast007 | if we had used another network, there would have been issues with conflicts | 03:05 |
Flash | oh sure, you can easily find flaws in any protocol ... but since it has wide adoption and libraries to support it, it's usable | 03:05 |
JeffM[m] | oh I know all about IRC libraries | 03:05 |
blast007 | I'm still interested in some global chat system, but that's waaay down the priority list, and I'd probably look at something like XMPP or Matrix, not IRC. | 03:07 |
sean[m] | If you consider how matrix bridges to IRC, it creates separate IRC users for each bridged user. | 03:07 |
sean[m] | Each with their own connection | 03:07 |
JeffM[m] | I was looking at a mud chat/friends network once too | 03:10 |
JeffM[m] | can't remember the name of it now | 03:10 |
sean[m] | Undoubtedly requires some special coordination or exemptions to avoid triggering DoS and other abuse signals, but demonstrably feasible to have thousands of active connections | 03:11 |
sean[m] | Matrix definitely seems to have their act together for being a better chat backend, though resource hungry I hear. | 03:13 |
blast007 | might be overkill for in-game global chat too | 03:13 |
spoopydango[m] | just run a bzadmin client for everyone | 03:14 |
JeffM[m] | you make a tank game, overkill should be implied | 03:14 |
the_map | I agree with JeffM[m] | 03:15 |
blast007 | the only C++ Matrix SDK listed on matrix.org is Qt5 based | 03:18 |
the_map | guess we're rewriting bzflag | 03:19 |
* JeffM[m] would have several suggestions ;) | 03:20 | |
the_map | send a notice to half the users, tell them we're starting over, they'll have to re-register | 03:20 |
JeffM[m] | so 11 people? | 03:22 |
JeffM[m] | ;) | 03:23 |
the_map | yes. but I'm not saying in what base ;) | 03:23 |
JeffM[m] | make the tank dance that'll bring em in. Dances are the new hats | 03:23 |
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Flash | you are thinking about this wrong ... it's an opportunity to write a better Matrix SDK | 05:41 |
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jfindlay | matrix but with tanks | 16:20 |
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blast007 | guess I was lucky number 10000! | 19:00 |
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the_map | 10001 | 19:37 |
Optic_Delusion | they are both OVER NINE THOUSAND! | 19:55 |
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