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| The_Noah | blast007: Is this live somewhere? https://github.com/BZFlag-Dev/api.bzflag.org | 21:05 | 
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| allejo | nope, that's a very early proof of concept project | 21:08 | 
| The_Noah | Okay. | 21:08 | 
| The_Noah | Thanks. | 21:08 | 
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| The_Noah | Where there be a public REST API in the future? | 21:25 | 
| allejo | yup, that's the next step for the bz infrastructure | 21:27 | 
| The_Noah | Yay! | 21:29 | 
| The_Noah | I love working with backends, is there any way I could help? | 21:29 | 
| allejo | sure! when we start work on it :) we don't have much planned or drawn out yet. still in the proof of concept stage for now | 21:32 | 
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| blast007 | The_Noah: I just started looking at https://api-platform.com/ | 21:33 | 
| blast007 | that's one possibility for what we would use for the backend stuff | 21:33 | 
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| blast007 | I don't think I would use their front-end stuff since I'm not a fan of React or Vue.js | 21:34 | 
| blast007 | another option would be using OpenAPI/swagger tools to generate the backend stuff | 21:35 | 
| The_Noah | Have you thought about using Express (Node.js) | 21:40 | 
| allejo | bleghh | 21:41 | 
| allejo | our infrastructure is mainly built with PHP. if we'd move away from it, it definitely wouldn't be to JS | 21:44 | 
| The_Noah | Okay. | 21:47 | 
| blast007 | JS itself isn't a great language | 21:48 | 
| blast007 | and the whole deeply nested node_modules thing with npm drives me crazy | 21:49 | 
| blast007 | and then there's stuff like this.. https://www.npmjs.com/package/is-nan | 21:49 | 
| allejo | speaking from first hand experience (I use JS + Express at work), it's definitely not the way we we'd want to build this | 21:53 | 
| The_Noah | Makes sense, PHP is a really nice language. | 21:53 | 
| blast007 | for me, a big thing with PHP is the minimal friction to get it to do something neat | 21:55 | 
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