IRC logs of Freenode #BZFlag for Monday, 2019-04-22

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macsformeI'm planning to merge the premake branch into master in the next few days, unless anyone wants further discussion on it03:26
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thanson16Hey all. Not sure if I'm using this right (IRC), but I recently saw that flatpak was added as a distribution means on Linux. I wanted to let you guys know I also added a snap package of it to the Snap Store a few months ago, with my user name in the title (didn't want to imply I was officially affiliated with the game creators). If someone wants to add a link to the website: https://snapcraft.io/bzflag-tjhanson04:31
thanson16It was my intent to keep it up to date whenever new releases come out, but if you would rather put it up under the bzflag name, here's the YAML file used to generate the package - let me know and I can remove my package.  https://git.thorandrew.com/thor/bzflag-snap04:32
thanson16If someone wants to contact me on this topic, email works best: hansonthor@gmail.com04:33
allejohey thanson16, thanks for that! i'm open to getting bz on snapcraft so long as no other devs object to it04:40
allejoblast007 ^04:41
thanson16Cool. Like I say, I have no problem keeping my snap of it up to date, but I understand if y'all would rather make an account under your name and properly attach the snap store to the git repo - the snap store has some tooling to autogenerate new packages, etc. with releases, so that might work better. Never tried it to say for sure tho.04:42
allejolooks like we'll probably have to reach out cuz it appears "bzflag" is a reserved name04:48
thanson16Interesting. Well, if you want anything from me, you will be unlikely to find me on IRC, so probably best to send me an email. Glad I was able to get this to your attention. Have a good nite (or day) everybody.04:54
allejoawesome, thanks! i've got your email saved so I'll reach out to you :)04:54
allejohave a good night :D04:55
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BZNotifybzflag: atupone synchronized pull request #148 "Use of Vertex Buffer Objects instead of Client Arrays" (https://git.io/vhCKr)09:18
blast007macsforme: as long as the visual studio project files and autotools files remain in the repo, I'm fine with it10:11
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blast007macsforme: if we get to the point where we're moving to a newer OpenGL, I think it'd be worth checkout out bgfx  https://bkaradzic.github.io/bgfx/overview.html12:44
blast007it'd let us target Direct3D, Metal, and OpenGL with a GLSL-like shader language12:45
blast007(and they're working on Vulkan)12:46
blast007https://bkaradzic.github.io/bgfx/tools.html   I haven't gotten to the point of using textures, but it does look like you have to "compile"/convert PNG textures into a "bgfx supported texture format", whatever that means12:49
blast007it has support for screenshots, though in debug mode it's a bit slow in some renderers (OpenGL and Direct3D) because it's converting the data from RGBA to BGRA or something like that12:51
blast007think it was a bit slow in both debug and release for Direct3D 9, but that may just be a limitation of D3D912:51
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blast007if we go the bgfx route, that would likely complicate bzflag from being included in linux distributions, however - bgfx doesn't have any releases or tags, and has a bunch of third-party bundled libs13:13
blast007though I believe some of the third-party libs are for their examples13:14
blast007a similar solution is gfx-rs.  https://github.com/gfx-rs/gfx   https://github.com/gfx-rs/portability13:40
blast007yet another is LLGL https://github.com/LukasBanana/LLGL13:44
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